Category: Accessories
Does a Seat With a Back Make A Difference? Sunlite Backrest Saddle
Picked up this seat, wasn’t sure what difference it would make, if any. Synopsis: A seat with a back makes a big difference for stability. I would buy it again.
This is the seat I bought, the Sunlite Backrest Saddle, 9″x11″. It was the cheapest I could find at the time (~$35 at time of purchase). I bolted it onto my eBikeboard and took it for a spin. It took a little getting used to, but the difference was obvious from the first ride. Now I’m quite comfortable with it and it’s hard to describe why it would make a difference. Maybe just because it keeps me from shifting around in the seat as much.
I would like a seat that is softer and had a better tightening mechanism for the back brace pad. It’s pretty lightweight, which good and bad. The size is good, it’s comfortable enough and it’s not obnoxious on the scooter. The seat pan is plastic, so I don’t know how much abuse it can take. I would like something a little softer and better built, so maybe I’ll spend more money next time and try to get a nicer one. All-in-all, it gets the job done!
Fluid Horizon: The Mobility Scooter I’ve Been Looking For
Synopsis: After more than 400 miles and 12 months, the Fluid Horizon scooter (with a seat) is a mobility winner. Why? It does it all. From street to store, 3 mph to 20 mph, it works equally well. Folds down and fits in a vehicle trunk. Slightly heavy, but you can trolley by grabbing the front wheel. Programable LCD screen, 3 modes, lights, brake light and bell. 48V 10 ah battery as tested, real-world range of 8-10 miles with 10aH battery. Solid rear tire has a different ride feel than inflatable, not as forgiving, but with front and rear suspension I have no trouble riding off a curb. I would recommend this scooter to anyone with good balance looking for super-convenient and capable mobility assistive device. As tested ~ $800-$900.
This scooter is FANTASTIC for mobility purposes.
Here’s a video I made that shows the seat and folding the scooter. Also an off-road and street ride.
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Originally I looked at a Glion Dolly for its trolley capability, but when folded, you can grab the front tire and trolley this scooter super easily, and it has a much fast top speed. *(I have recently acquired a Glion SNAPnGO… detailed post to come.)
FAST OR SLOW
I have tested a fair number of scooters for mobility assistive devices over the years. The dream was always to have something that could go slow OR fast, could fold up and be carried in the trunk of a car, wasn’t too heavy, and had decent range. This is the first scooter that has checked all the boxes for me. It’s a little bit expensive, but so is anything in the mobility space.
For mobility, you have to add a seat (~$100), but Fluid doesn’t sell a seat. Multiple companies sell the same Unicool T8 scooter with their branding. REVRides, Apollo, EMove, Fluid. You can buy it from the factory via Alibaba. This is an advantage, because there are many sources for parts. I bought my seat from REVRides, you can see it here. Each company has slight differences in their scooters, like battery size or color. Make sure you look closely when comparing models.
Watch how this quickly folds down to a compact package:
A very important feature is the adjustable handlebar height. You might not think about it, but you want a different height if you are standing vs. sitting. This scooter allows you to drop the handlebars down to a usable height when sitting. You can’t do that with say, a Xiaomi Mi M365, standard rental scooter.
The other real trick about this scooter is how people react to it. You have to take into account how the general public acts around whatever you are riding. There are zero problems riding this anywhere around people. In fact, I get a lot of compliments and questions about my scooter. (You might even be reading this after I referred you to my site!) I ride it very slow in stores, and at fairs or farmer’s markets.
The big surprise is how fast this scooter goes! When you hit the street it doesn’t accelerate super quickly, but it accelerates more higher up in the speed curve until, at 185 lbs, I hit 20-21 mph! That’s a game changer. With that speed, and a 8-10 mile range, I can ride to stores and switch modes into the 3 mph mode, and ride straight into them.
BUILD
The Fluid Horizon is durable. I have done whatever I have wanted, I haven’t babied it, and it has held up wonderfully. My front plastic cap which holds the battery in the compartment came loose, but I used some silicone and popped it back in. I have taken this scooter on multiple dirt roads and opened it up, and had a ball! I can’t believe how well it works on dirt roads. It can’t handle soft sand or gravel, but a regular dirt road is no problem.
SERVICE
I bought my unit used with 8 miles on it, so essentially brand new. When I was buying it, I tried to get a voltage reading by touching the charging pins with my voltmeter probes. DON’T DO THIS. I touched the live probe to the ground and POP! a puff of magic smoke, and the controller was gone. Embarrassed, I bought the scooter and set out to replace the controller.
Fluid would not sell me parts because I did not by the scooter directly from them. What?! So… I bought one from REVRides, popped it in and was back in business. I don’t know why Fluid were so weird about supporting their scooter after the fact. But recently, my grandson broke my LDC bracket and my conscientious son contacted Fluid to replace it and they were SUPER responsive. So I don’t know, maybe things have changed since I originally tried to deal with Fluid. Hopefully, they are selling a great scooter.
OVERALL
This PERFECT for RV park and campgrounds. Used it for nightly runs to the garbage, or to take our registration back to the office. Super convenient. At night, I turn on the lights and it is easy to ride in the dark. Front headlights, plus rear light/brake light. It’s great for city streets and riding inside stores. You can fold it up and put it in the trunk. Flats? Solid rear tire and poured some Slime in the front tire and haven’t had one the whole time I’ve been riding it.
Side note: My grandkids love this scooter and are constantly riding it. Caution is advised, one crashed and broke his wrist.
I charge my scooter with this Luna charger. It can vary the charging amps and the percentage of charge. It’s great for when I need a quick charge, but it’s also great because most of the time I can charge my battery to 80%.
Here’s another good review of the Fluid Horizon: Electric-scooter.guide
Dakota Lithium Clean Republic Battery Build
Posting my review of the Dakota Lithium Clean Republic 12V 10aH LiFePO4 Li-on battery. I have 2 – 24V Currie battery packs that I use for my scooter and bicycle. SLA batteries are cheap, say $25 a battery vs $100 for a Li-on battery, and they will get you on the road, but… heavy, limited range, limited life compared to Li-on.
So I finally scratched together the $400 I needed for 4 batteries and made my order. The batteries arrived quickly and were well packaged. The were an exact replacement for my 12V 10Ah SLA batteries.
I have used these packs all summer and they have been fantastic. They are much lighter and last much longer. How much longer? I would say at least double my SLA’s. I have used them in a 48V configuration with my e-Bikeboard scooter, on my 250W 24V 16″ Electric bicycle, and my 450W 24V 26″ electric bicycle, and… I even have used them with a step-down converter and my 12V Minn Kota electric outboard. In every application these batteries have performed exceptionally.
Another benefit is the power does not lag as the battery is used. With SLA’s the scooter starts to go slower as the battery drains, not so with these li-ons. The power stays constant throughout, but, when they die they die without warning. On…off.
You can see I have adapted the power connection to Anderson Power Poles. I charge the packs with a Li-ion charger that came with my eBikeboard scooter.
Hopefully it will take me years to find out how long they last, but so far they have been great, delivering all the power I have asked of them.
Prototyping
Busy time of year for me and a lot of people, and the cold is here for sure. I am still riding on a regular basis though. The cold is cutting the range of my batteries. Kick scooting through the stores, scootering to stores, and the other day the sun popped out so we jumped on our tandem bicycle and rode around the neighborhood.
When I was buying the tandem bike the lady who was selling it told me that riding tandem was fun because it was more social, that you could talk to each other while riding. I had never really thought about it, but it’s true! We can both be right there riding and talking. Plus, it takes some coordination between parties to ride. Tandem riding is just fun, I don’t know how to describe it other than that.
The picture on this post is hint of a project that I am working on to improve my riding experience. Not much to say at this point, still just an idea that I am seeing if I can get to work. Luckily I have a friend who is very smart and willing to help, so onward we go. I will keep you posted here as it comes along. There are many challenges to riding scooters and bikes in an urban environment that typically aren’t highlighted in the usual discussions, such as road debris, other road and sidewalk users, the strain of real-world riding on the machinery. I am attempting to deal with one of these problems with my prototype. I will post further as the project develops.
I am putting off putting a seat on my Fuzion CityGlide B200 until after the first of the year. Too much going on.
Fuzion Cityglide B200
The EW 36 sold. Picked up a sweet Schwinn vintage tandem bike this past week. That bike is fun to ride, although my first turn at the backseat stoker position I was pretty wobbly. It’s a really different riding sensation.
Somehow I stumbled onto a great deal on a Fuzion Cityglide B200 from Amazon. I had been looking at them after seeing a write-up on letskickscooter.com. I went to bed with the page open and when I woke up the price had dropped substantially so I scooped one up. I haven’t ridden it too much yet, but it is very lightweight and folds up nicely. The wheels are big for a kickscooter, and it rolls nicely. I can feel a lot of the bumps in the road, but I am used to the 12″ and larger tires on my scooters. I plan on trying to put a seat on it and using it as my back-up seated scooter.
I was kind of surprised how handbrake t matched up when I put it next to my GoPed KnowPed. I wouldn’t have guessed that it was as long. The wheels are big but much skinnier than the GoPed wheels. The handbrake activates the back stomp brake where the brake on the GoPed is a front brake.
I took my Schwinn S600 apart and fixed the chain. That was a mess and took a long time. The Currie scooters are hard to work on, I wouldn’t recommend it for first timers. Seems good now. I have ridden it a few miles and it seems good.
BTW, there is an interesting bicycle motor here that has an indiegogo campaign going on for the next few days. It’s called the shareroller. Seems like a good idea to have one motor and battery for every bike rather than a motor and battery on every bike.
Urban Riding and Mobility Challenges
Finding information about mobility and urban riding has not been easy for me. There has been a lot of learning by trial-and-error. I realize that it is a small segment of the population who share these interests and concerns, but I know there are people like me. That’s why I share what I am experiencing, so someone like me who is looking for information can find more information.
Recently someone in our community was using a wheelchair on our urban train and got their wheel caught in the tracks while crossing. Unfortunately a train was coming and he was struck and killed. Using mobility devices includes dangers, and for those of us who use them it is serious business.
Working on a new piece of safety equipment for myself right now. Once I get further along I will share. My friend and I came up with an idea and it’s been fun to try making it. We have ordered parts and will begin prototyping soon. I am excited.
Been continuing to ride and been thinking about how maintenance is a key element to factor with any device. This week I replaced a faulty throttle on my Trailz, so that is back on-line again. Found a broken rear spoke that needs replacing on my EZGO bicycle. And I need to make some decisions and move ahead with my battery configuration upgrade on my Lyric, or should I say eBikeboard, scooter. Got my first flat on the Lyric the other day, goathead sticker. They are brutal in the spots where the weeds have been left to grow. Also picked one up in the front tire of the EZGO, so two flat tires in one week. I run Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires with puncture protection, still got me.
With the weather changing, I am heading into the winter riding season, which can be some of the most challenging riding.
People Stop Me
People stop me regularly and ask me about whatever scooter I am riding. It has been surprising how many people need something like what I have, and the varied reasons they need it. I got into scooters to help me, but meeting people who use assistive devices has softened my heart. There are a lot of people who suffer but want to keep going and need a little help.
If you are one of the people who has stopped me, hopefully you will find answers to your questions here. You can also contact me if you have a specific question.
A BIG issue for assistive devices is transportabilty; can you take it with you when you are not riding it? The scooter pictured above has a folding handlebar and I put it in the trunk to take shopping. It is super lightweight and easy to pull out and use. It is a GoPed KnowPed that I stuck a seat on. It’s awesome, one of the most powerful tools I have.
The KnowPed has a wide deck and a solid adult-sized frame. The wheels are solid, no flats ever! And most importantly for a sit-down configuration like this, a front hand brake. I will do a detailed post about the seat in the future. I hope to build a folding post in the next week or two, so I will do a post on that.
You may notice that I put big, sprung Schwinn Quilted Wide Cruisers Saddle seats on my rides. They really work for me in giving me an extra bit of suspension that helps my joints. I also use Schwinn Collapsible Handlebar Baskets, very handy.